Is it a big deal? Perhaps not. But again, there is the "foot in the door" principle. Where is the line to be drawn? There might be a qualititative difference between polling a box, and switching on a video camera, but legally and ethically the difference is thin or nonexistent because both are methods of electronic surveillance.
So technically, it is still illegal. That was my main point. At the same time, in the eyes of some consumers, "theft of service" could be argued to be a rather thin technical point. If I inform the cable comapny that I have 4 televisions in 4 rooms, but I really have only 3 in my side of the duplex and I run a cable to the neighbor in the other side, am I stealing service?
Probably, according to the law, even though I see no moral or ethical transgression. But that is a technicality you can be sure the cable company would squeal about. So why should consumers not squeal in their own right, when the cable companies are "technically" breaking the law?
How you see no moral or ethical transgression in giving your neighbor illegal cable is beyond me. The number of outlets you have means nothing. Your service costs the same regardless of 2 or 20 outlets. Youve really just descredited everything you spouted from sentence one with that like of thinking. You running a line to your neighbor or your neighbor walking over and hooking themselves up is the same exact thing. I love people with convenient morals and ethics.
I will not tell everyone how, but if you pm me, I can explain. Would it be ok to share your power, gas, and water with your neighbor? I have a Scientific American Explorer and I want to split it out to my computer. I know my Cable company has a filter that prevents me from getting the lower channels. I'm already purchasing Digital and I own the Cable Box. At my last Apt I asked the cable man to remove the filter. Which he did as he was doing some other work.
Yea I know I can climb the pole and yank the filter off myself Thanks in advance. One client and multiple servers From what I've seen, the government only restricts the what, not the how. So as long as they're not taking data without your consent, the method is irrelevant. I'm not saying that's right or wrong. I just haven't seen anything that says it's illegal. First of all, I am a computer science BS degree student. Currently on my Junior year.
I also enjoy circuit design and embedded programming on the side. So, I guess you could say I am a computer scientist with a strong influence on computer engineering. Cable can be hacked. In olden days it was quite easy, but cable companies have gotten increasingly smarter.
It is very difficult, bordering on impossible to hack now. This alone is much more work than the average person wants to do. This is the easy part. Then you have to know how the signal is encrypted and have a decryption key.
On top of that you have to spoof a working customer's box. These are not easy tasks. Trying to brute force a customer's setup is basically impossible which means you have to use your account. If you make a mistake, and somewhere you will make a mistake, the cable company will know that you are trying to steal cable, and you'll end up in prison for a very long time.
If you really want to do cable hacking, then you should definitely go with a computer PVR card. If you really want to steal, which is wrong and I don't recommend it, cable isn't the way to go. Pick up a cheap satellite dish and a dvb card for your computer. There is both linux and windows filters already written. You can get upward of digital channels for free off of one satellite.
Furthermore, it is virtually untraceable. Rewriting the firmware is not as hard as being implied. Firmware is updated by the "company". Once the firmware is re-written, and your list of mac address's, you now can "spoof" the address of those who have the service and not The "company" does not voluntarily return funds for a double charged account UNLESS the customer requests it y2k bug that did not exist, but millions of cable customers double charged without return of funds I was there for that and watched the "company" steal from their loyal customers.
Was that or any other unethical business dealings these people do? We live in a corrupt world By the way Man you ppl are just whack. If you don't know, look it up. If you don't know what a MAC is, look it up. It's hardcoded in the equipment from the day it rolls of the assembly line.
No way to spoof it as the boxes are not a 'true' pc with a operating system to direct the internal components like a PC sitting on your desk. Oh, I read somewhere earlier that old pc's used RAM and a battery NEVER happened. I was doing computers like the original chip IBM's before some of you were born. The battery was only to retain specific changes in the setup of the hardware for devices attached to the mother board hard drive,video,etc.
If you don't know machine code and think php or xml are the way things work, then you should learn a little more about electronics, electrical and computers. It takes a lot of coding, electronic knowledge and time to be able to hack a box. It does NOT free up digital signals as it still is electrical current and blocked. Unless the laws of physics for some unknown reason do not apply to you, digital and analog are electrons electricity and you can not 'filter' those to get more channels.
If you think that "polling" is wire tapping on your house, you belong in an institute. Enough on that. I know it is a hard coded "computer" and I use that term loosely as it is like my cell phone 'computer' or my digital cordless home phone 'computer' and set to perform a specific function.
It is more interactive in performing it's function that my microwave computer performs a single task it is still not a true computer. You can hack DirectTV cards, that's a given. I will keep on googling to see if someone, somewhere has actually hacked the boxes, but until then, all these people given email address asking to something and not giving anything in return are leechers. Only two things in life are for sure Look it up You can spoof a MAC.
Taxes are not sure You can order a bunch of moives on a motorola box then either hold down the power and select and the same time and reset the ac power. The box has to go back to motorola to be reprogrammed. The French seem to put a lot of these streaming channels on there and I can tell you, they have some strange sex fixations.
Break out that huge screened laptop and you will not know the difference.. This is rather vague but I hope you get my general idea Why not just split the cable, hook one side to the cable box, hook the cable out of the cable box and the other side of the splitter the one that doesn't go to the cable box up to a computer. Logic and cryptology would say if you know the input and you know the output and you know they are mathematically related then you should be able to find an algorithm that decrypts them.
Then pass the raw cable signal through a device that has instructions to pass the signal through the algorithm and you should have non encrypted cable. No way to poll the device because the device will just attempt to decrypt the poll request and pass it on to the T. Or am I just applying logic of a different field to something completely unrelated? Posted on Monday, October 08, - GMT This question has probably been posted, so sorry for the repeat, but I just didnt want to go through the entire threads especially with all the animosity.
I just moved into a new place that is already hooked up to comcast cable, and I kept my existing box to see if it will work by just plugging it into the cable. But I guess it wont. Is there any way to make it work.
Or should I just return the damm thing and lease a new box? Posted on Wednesday, October 17, - GMT Option 1: Ok ok ok, for all you wana be cable stealing H4x0r5 this one is for you yes you can hook up you digital box wil a usb or ethernet to your pc and change any setting or preferance just as your local Cable company formats the box.
Option 2: If you arent that cheap to not pay a bill at all and you have your digital boxs at your home all hooked up and everything all you do is call your cable company and tell them you want every movie channel they have so then they send the hit bada bing bada BOOm, ok so now you have the channels you want so now you disconnect your boxs call your cable company back and tell them you want just basic digital now so you can get your lowest bill but still use the digital.
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, - GMT all you have to do is just unplug your boxs so they dont get refreshed anbd your good to go but ill post about hacking the modems and getting free comcast high speed internet another day.
I was given a DVR as a gift, and I just want to be able to use it. Guess what? This is crap. Completely unfair that they would not allow this. Furthermore, STB's can not be "hacked" in the sense that I can't open mine and get all free channels.
However as noted before, if you're willing to pull the IC's you can dump the data and clone boxes. You still have to pay, but in my case I'd clone the box I'm paying for, so I can use my DVR for free, as it should be. Nowhere in the contract am I forbidden from using a DVR. In case you weren't paying attention, this was to get my DVR with two inputs of digital cable. Posted on Monday, October 22, - GMT i fond a comcast motorola digital cable box i want to use it but i dont kno how when i hooked it up the screen is just black is there a way to use it or should i just toss it First off find a person who never paid their bill and is willing to give-sell you their box.
Now open it and find the clear button. You just keep pressin it everytime it locks you out and enjoy!!! I usually get Starz, HBO and on demand for free by just hitting the reset.
Any good info would be appreciated in my inbox. Posted on Tuesday, October 23, - GMT if you have any cablevision info contact me or post it here. Posted on Saturday, October 27, - GMT If you really want to know how to get programming for free, let me explain how it works.
The Mac address is what identifies your particular box on the network. The Identification Number is what the company uses to link your name and billing info to the Mac address. Beyond that, everything else as far as programming is controlled at the providers end.
You call them or use the Programming on demand if available and in that instance a signal is sent or the tech on the phone adds the channel to your acount and the hardware on thier end says, "o. You and say a few friends that live in a close area want to split a bill you can have 1 person register a box, get all the programming, register few more boxes for the extra few bucks and then they all take a box home. This would help minimize overall cost for everyone. I'm sure someone will tell me I'm wrong.
Firstly, please don't go crazy with the filter. The filter does require a little maintenance to insure smooth and uninterrupted use. The filter should only be used for special occasions or special events because of the maintenance required.
It's not a miracle worker like the old analog black boxes were but it's the only product that will work on digital cable at the moment. Your box may keep a record of pay per view events in it's log and therefore will require a reset to clear the memory of the box.
That is what the filter does, it traps the billing signal from leaving your box to give you time to reset the memory. We have acquired the knowledge of many cable employees and the wealth of information on the internet to find the secret reset procedures the cable companies never thought would get out. It is these secrets that are listed below and will require you to experiment a little until you find the exact method of resetting your box. If you can't find the reset procedure for your box below then you might want to get creative and do a search for your box's reset procedures.
The internet is a wonderful thing and it is a great tool, so use it. Posted on Monday, February 11, - GMT Carl, Maybe if you had stayed in school long enough to learn how to write you wouldn't be so poor.
As I mentioned in a previous post If you have ever been a victim of either service companies scams.. Both "cable" and "satellite" signals come to my property without me asking for them There are several ignorant fools here that will insult your grammar, spelling, where you are from, or anything they can Why goes through all the trouble of removing the filter if you pay for internet service only or if they trap the signal outside your house with a filter instead of disconnecting you or deal with playing around with a modified "black box" through Direct TV when you can program a simple card to utilitize the signal that is being sent down through the satelite network?
No wires, no mess. You want Channels? It's not a matter of how many, but which country channels now! I get both cable and satellite. It has been made very easy for even the most novice people. A site where you can get a little help is: al7bar dot tk.
I can get a mac addy of a box with all the channels. My problem would be "Cloning" it. Posted on Friday, March 28, - GMT A friend of mine found a website called digitalworldz they are a cable hacking site. This one is directed at cable employee s who seem to think either A believe god himself runs their cableco B thinks we are all idiots and your "final word" that stealing cable is imposable should be honored as if it were gospel. Quit defending your company's code and protocols as if YOU had written it.
How about securing our your customers confidential data for starters. The voip you have been quick to roll out has holes big enough to drive a truck through. The bottom line here is, if your systems were as secure you thought they were, your local bank ATM would be a damn dvr box!
Someone really nailed the STB polling topic, ironic how it's silly things like this that end up opening doors to malicious attacks. To the folks taking chips out of their boxes, wow, I guess there is more than one way to skin a cat, that may be overkill though.
To the people searching for answers; don't expect 1 click solution, go invent your own. Have fun and explore, who knows in 10 years you may be running that system, and when you do, plug up some of the lazy code so the next generation can push security to the next level.
In closing, don't steal cable, don't steal from your customers, always explore and always spend to better protect your customers data. I can't tell if the people who work for the cable companies are that stupid in case you don't get it cable guys, that's sarcasm. Any electronic device has to have some kinda way for info to be stored some kinda chip which tells it what to do like with a basic calculator something in side it tells it to either add or multiply those numbers if u wiped out whatever does that mostlikey a microchip of some sort then pressing the numbers would do nothing at all but every device does something????
Also explain why powerboost or rr turbo which is what i have cost the same price in boston area as i pay north of the city yet there turbo speed is mbs faster then im recieveing??? I have bought a HD cable box from flea market. It worked for 2 day but now it is not working. Is there a way to clone my HD box with my existing box? Or Unlock the HD box? I also have 3 other Motorola digital cable boxes.
Posted on Thursday, August 21, - GMT I have a friend that is a area manager for comcast, and just to let you know, most the time if you have internet with them, you will have basic cable also.
It happens, they dont like you knowing and they wont tell you, but they cant stop you from pluging in your tv to the cable outlet. They are not required to provide expanded basic services though. If you have a HSI only acct and get expanded basic then its the cable companys fault because they have to untrap them. I work for Charter and they recently did a audit you can say to see if anyone is not paying for basic or expanded basic in one of our areas.
You will be surprised how many people pay for basic and get expananded basic with out paying for it. Then they want to complain beause they will have to pay more. Before i commit this second box to being a boat anchor, is there a way to open this box for use? I am a legit digital cable subscriber, I just want to use items I have legally purchased and pay for. Posted on Friday, December 12, - GMT so i pay for the whole enchilada and went to ebay and bought a box that is comcast compatible, went to comcast and because it doesn't have there lable on the front they won't activate it anyone know how to activate a dct by motorolla I am already paying a month, just want a box that I don't have to rent, thats all.
The list goes on! More power to the hackers! Let them have their fun. AS far as the network channels go Why would you pay the cable company for or steal an over-compressed Mpeg4 signal when it is broadcast for free in lossless ATSC over the air??? I don't understand it. The bottom line is that cable companies all over the country have been getting caught and fined for ripping off the consumers on a regular basis ever since they started back in the 70's.
Who cares if they are getting ripped off too? If you do, you are stupid -because they have done it to you even if they haven't been caught or you don't know it and they will do it again.
FCC fines to them are just a business expense and they have a fund set aside for it. As far as security and addressable boxes go -If it weren't a requirement for them to do so in order to sell HBO, SHO, etc, they probably wouldn't bother. This is a stupid thread. Keep on hacking them, hackers -just don't get caught! And all of you self-appointed "cable cops", you're all idiots! Posted on Monday, January 26, - GMT the law stats that ne signal sent to your haouse can be receaved in any maner you see fit!
Posted on Thursday, May 07, - GMT Well All of you people that think someone is stealing cable video service when they just have cable internet is wrong. The instructions in the cable internet modem box actually tell you to hook it up to your tv as well. Besides There are verry few companies that block the video signal from there internet users.
One reason is band width if they did not allow the user to use the very basic video service than there would be spending more money on internet bandwidth then the video. Due to the fact of people watching programs online. And if you want to watch tv over the internet that is not stealing it is free as well. One example is HULU. COM so call you cable company and ask them before you try and state something you know nothing about.
Posted on Monday, May 11, - GMT if you want to try to hack something easy would be epvision. Is there anyways to reprogram the firmware on the box and get back the authorization. In my case I used 2way cable splitter, one end to cable modem, second one directly to TV.
Scanned channels with TV using Cable mode. Found digital channels and 29 analog channels. All other digital channels are Scrambled. Any idea how to resolve this to watch more channels? For more details on safe internet best practices as well as the scams to steer clear of, tap or click here.
Get the latest tech updates and breaking news on the go, straight to your phone, with the Komando. Skip to Content. Your daily dose of tech smarts Learn the tech tips and tricks only the pros know. Email address Sign me up. Learn the tech tips and tricks only the pros know. Mine is the same. I can get an inverter for under 10 dollars. I might go that way. Yes; if the regulators can dissipate the heat that is an option to consider, that hadn't dawned on me at all.
While the heat is wasteful, it may be less wasteful than using an off the shelf inverter to power the box. Where battery operation is inferred here, wasted power is a consideration. Reply 12 years ago on Introduction. Ugh, DTV boxes will give you better reception with any antenna. You can also move your antenna outdoors. By Kipkay Kipkay Videos Follow. More by the author:. About: Tinkerer, hackster and prankster.
More About Kipkay ». Actually this is legal. Cable companies are required by law to provide you with basic over-the-air channels in their original broadcast format HDTV.
What they choose to lock down or not lock down is up to them. As long as you're not bypassing encryption they're offering it for free. I've see a youtube video where a guy uses just speaker wires as an antenna. Also on another video there's a guy who usues two beer cans to make a homemade antenna, then he hangs it right on the glass of his window.
It then shows him getting a few cable channels. Is there a certain known hack on how to use a tv with an already build tuner, to get free cable channels? Maybe even satellite? After running the PC scan is it possible to run oc-ax to TV, run a channel scan and watch the new channels? An update.. Comcast in my area suburb of Chicago has encrypted all of their stations, digital or otherwise - so this method no longer works.
I checked HDHomeRun's channel page for my zipcode, and they have channels listed, but this is not true. They are all encrypted now, even basic channels that are supposed to be free, like Public Television. If this change isn't nation-wide yet, it will be soon. All-digital providers are free to encrypt or unencrypt anything they see fit, no matter how much anyone complains to the FCC about it.
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